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FenCayne
As Jack posted, in the coming weeks we'll be gradually introducing the world and characters to be found in Roger Steel and the Human Element. Gradually, because game development is subject to constant ambushes by Murphy's Law, and because the world in which the game itself takes place is quite complex. Nevertheless, we are hoping to release the game before the end of the year. Well, we'll see how that goes ... :)



But to keep our minds focused and the discussion under (some sort of) control, we thought it would be an interesting experiment to number the weekly posts that I'll be making on various topics and each major character, counting down from 25. Generally speaking, we won't be discussing details of the game before they are brought up in my weekly post. But I'm sure that won't stop y'all from speculating wildly ... and we would hate to stop you doing that. You never know what ideas we might shamelessly pilfer from your collective wisdom. :wink:



Anyway, without further waffle from me, here's the first post, introducing the world in which Roger Steel takes place ...





It's 1936. A century after the first great plague. Ninety-seven years after the blight. Ninety-two years since an unprecedented series of meteor strikes swept the world.



Two empires wrestle over a shattered and war-torn world.



Europe lies in ruins, shattered by a fruitless war that has raged twenty years and more.



The United States of America is but a dream held fiercely by the rump States huddled around the Atlantic seaboard and the Gulf of Mexico.



The British Empire works industriously from its stronghold in Canada to support a patchwork of aboriginal confederacies, fractious enclaves and proto-nations fed by a constant stream of immigrants from the battlefields of Europe and undermine the United State's resurgence.



Across the Bering Strait, over much of landlocked Asia, Tsarist Russia rules an ever-expanding empire with an iron fist.



In China too, the Qing Dynasty – hanging on to power by its fingernails and angered by the havoc being wrought by foreigners in her backyard – is struggling to unite and control bickering warlords to maintain rule over its far-flung provinces.



Meanwhile, a complex conspiracy is at work in the mountains and deserts surrounding the roof of the world.



Into this maelstrom, four innocents are thrown by fate. When a sibling is kidnapped to become part of a sinister experiment, the remaining brother or sister together with two lifelong friends have to join six strangers with deadly secrets to rescue them and foil a madman's scheme to march the human race beyond frontiers of science.



Discuss! :)
abnaxus
First of all I wonder why the game is called "Roger Steel" and second I wonder whether these four innocents will come from China, British Empire or USA...



Also the meteor strikes suggest the game setting will be post-apocalyptic as well?
Seloun
Based on the description, sounds like the setting diverged from history around 1830's (given ~100 years before 1936)? Would explain the state the of the US/Canada/Britain, which in turn would presumably explain why the WWI equivalent is locked in stalemate, and that in turn explain why Russia is still Russia.



Socialism (or faux socialism, I suppose) was the big thing in 1930s in history, IIRC (and the Depression), though it's not clear if the same pressures would be on Italy or Germany given the alternative outcome of WWI. The date feel suggestive, though. A split from 1830's would also presumably mean a very different US Civil war (if there was even one) which could also imply a very different relationship for the US federal government.



Hopefully the background implies that there will be some political aspects to the game - probably unreasonable to expect a deep treatment, though it'd be nice if it explored some of the consequences a bit.
Nightsnow
Well, the game has my interest.
P_Tigras
Hmmm....So does this mean Mexico still controls California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, slices of Colorado and Wyoming, plus quite possibly Texas too? Or have the Comanche and Apache taken much of that region over? And is Texas an independent country? Or has it been admitted to the Union?



Historical Note: Texas gained its independence from Mexico in early 1836, and then asked to join the Union. This eventually lead to a war between the US and Meixco in the 1840's where Mexico got crushed and was forced to cede a great deal of land to the US. So I assume that due to the plague/meteor strikes, the Mexican war either didn't happen or didn't lead to the same results, but this leaves Texas's status up in the air.



I suppose Philadelphia is likely still the 2nd largest city in the US at the time of the game since with no further westward expansion, Chicago wouldn't have experienced quite the same growth.



Hmm...and what about the Civil War? Did that happen eventually? Or does slavery still exist in the US at the time of the game?
jack1974
Cool looks like the writer has "a few questions" to answer when he wakes up / visits forums again :lol:
MarSel
I will leave the history theory's to the experts and just concentrate on the gaming aspect.

I love a game with a Sibling for the main character but more often then not they are used very little (Dragon Age 2) or are just a NPC. Will this game finally have a sibling (once rescued) who stays in the party and is kick ass. Or is the game just going to be about the rescue... I wonder??

Another thing I agree with abnaxus in that the origins is interesting and I hope multicultural.

Interesting... Very interesting...
Svanhildr
Oooh~ Interesting! So I guess we can either play as the sister or the brother? Will there be romances? I wonder who or what Roger Steel is...
jack1974
Just one thing, we want to try keeping it more organized so on each thread writer will reply on the thread's theme. So there will be one about each character (yes different nationalities :wink:) and the romances. But for now in this thread he'll reply only about the setting/world. We're doing it a bit to tease (I admit it! :lol:) but also because we don't want to reveal everything immediately (and we don't have yet any artwork for the characters so we're waiting for that).
MarSel
Ok the World.

Are there airships?

How does technology differ in this timeline?

Where in the world is Roger Steel set?

That will do from me for this post...
Foelhe
I'm guessing there'll be a lot of globe-trotting in this game? Will the characters see most of this first-hand, or is it mostly background?
Franka
So, did you ever play Shadow Hearts?
Nightsnow
I love shadow hearts, and its prequel (which I couldn't spell) and its sequel, I also liked the third game.



but i don't think that jack quite has shadow hearts rather morbid humor.
FenCayne
OK, a few answers to the questions raised ... Thanks very much for your interest!



The setting won’t be post-apocalyptic in the sense of Fallout or Wasteland. The meteors, although widespread, were individually quite small. Devastating if you happened to be within a few miles of a strike, but for countries that weren’t ‘in the line of fire’, and which already had comparatively sophisticated infrastructure, no more than fodder for sensationalist news.



Most people outside Western Europe aren’t scrabbling around the ruins in order to survive. And even in Europe, the current state of the conflict is more akin to guerilla warfare than all-out conflict. Some European countries are ruled by dictators, and others, although democracies, have not chosen their leaders wisely …



To be honest, this is mostly background to account for the current state of affairs. For the characters under player command, the conflict in Europe is a long way away. And even the fate of the United States is not cause for much thought by most party members – although for one individual, it is a matter of great concern and he can make it one for everyone else …



So the 1830s-1840s were a period of great change in world history. Texas is basically a borderland being fought over aboriginal claimants, Spanish-speaking settlers from Mexico, and English-speaking, US revivalists from the east. The ‘Rump States’ over which the US government can wield effective control are bordered by modern-day Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio-Indiana, southern NY state, and Massachusetts. Chicago, although a significant city under British rule, is unrecognisable from the one in our timeline …



Slavery is a vexed subject, and although still tolerated in areas of the world where it was historically practiced (and economically important), is not discussed in polite society, except euphemistically. Also, because the British Empire has interests all over the world, it is not necessarily the Black-White issue that it is from the US historical perspective. Human subjugation can take many forms.



Obviously, politics will shape each character in the sense that they are the product of their culture and background, and they will have points of view and prejudices which create friction with their companions. However it’s my aim to avoid a lot of exposition in the game, but have the politics or background come out during (skipable) conversations and events during play.



The party is definitely multi-cultural. The PC sibling will spend some time with the party. There will be other siblings in the party, too. The PC can be male or female, but they have quite different characters, so playing each will yield a fresh experience. I will surprise exactly no one on this forum by announcing that there will be straight, lesbian, and gay relationship opportunities. While some (a majority) of party characters are bi, others are strictly straight, gay, or lesbian.



Airships … of course! How can we do steampunk without airships? Including one special airship … 8)



As for having Roger Steel's name in the title, well now, Roger Steel is an interesting character … :wink:
jack1974
So, did you ever play Shadow Hearts?

No, I honestly played really a few JRPG. With my coder we always joke about this, since I come from a "western RPG background" while he played a lot of JRPG. So often our RPGs are a mix of western/eastern ruleset/battle systems :lol:
FenCayne

How does technology differ in this timeline?

Where in the world is Roger Steel set?


Forgot to answer these. Technology is basically steam and electricity with a fair chunk of authorial licence to fill in the gaps (standard steampunk, in other words). I'm hoping the artist can mutate Victorian chic with some twist on 30s aesthetics (art deco, streamlining, etc.) and fashions, though.



As for where in the world, I think we'll leave that for another sneak preview :wink:
Franka
So, did you ever play Shadow Hearts?

No, I honestly played really a few JRPG. With my coder we always joke about this, since I come from a "western RPG background" while he played a lot of JRPG. So often our RPGs are a mix of western/eastern ruleset/battle systems :lol:


Well, this game's world sounds fairly close to Shadow Hearts. Which could be a good thing, seeing how that series are some of my most favorite games ever, in part due to the setting.


I love shadow hearts, and its prequel (which I couldn't spell) and its sequel, I also liked the third game.


Koudelka. I'm impressed you enjoyed that one, it was not a very good game.
P_Tigras
OK, a few answers to the questions raised ... Thanks very much for your interest!



The setting won’t be post-apocalyptic in the sense of Fallout or Wasteland. The meteors, although widespread, were individually quite small. Devastating if you happened to be within a few miles of a strike, but for countries that weren’t ‘in the line of fire’, and which already had comparatively sophisticated infrastructure, no more than fodder for sensationalist news.


Given that Western/Central Europe was not only the center of both industrial and scientific development in the 19th and early 20th centuries, but pretty much ruled the world, I'm hard-pressed to think of any countries outside of Europe and the US that had "comparatively sophisticated infrastructure" during that period. Most of the other great civilizations like China were in decline during that period, although Japan did start to ascend rapidly in the late 19th and early 20th century, first defeating Qing China in 1903, and then the Russ ian empire in 1905. Eventually it grew powerful enough to threaten all of Asia as WWII approached. Yet curiously, you haven't mentioned imperial Japan at all.


Most people outside Western Europe aren’t scrabbling around the ruins in order to survive. And even in Europe, the current state of the conflict is more akin to guerilla warfare than all-out conflict. Some European countries are ruled by dictators, and others, although democracies, have not chosen their leaders wisely …


In the real world, most countries outside of Western/Central Europe and the US are sill living in agrarian or subsistence societies well into the 20th century. So while you haven't been explicit, it does kind of sound like you're not only beating the US and Western Europe (aside from the Brits) down, but also that you might be raising other parts of the world up, not just imperial Russia. Although it's possible that I may have have misinterpreted the implications of some of your words.


To be honest, this is mostly background to account for the current state of affairs. For the characters under player command, the conflict in Europe is a long way away. And even the fate of the United States is not cause for much thought by most party members – although for one individual, it is a matter of great concern and he can make it one for everyone else …



So the 1830s-1840s were a period of great change in world history. Texas is basically a borderland being fought over aboriginal claimants, Spanish-speaking settlers from Mexico, and English-speaking, US revivalists from the east. The ‘Rump States’ over which the US government can wield effective control are bordered by modern-day Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio-Indiana, southern NY state, and Massachusetts. Chicago, although a significant city under British rule, is unrecognisable from the one in our timeline …


It sounds like your alternate world diverged well before the 1830's as Kentucky became a state in 1792, Tenessee in 1796, and Ohio in 1803. Jefferson purchased large swatches of territory from France in the Louisiana Purchase of 1805, Louisiana became a state in 1812, and the US took Fort Niagara from the Brits in the War of 1812, repulsed invasions of Michigan, Illionois and New York, and forced the Brits into a somewhat constraining treaty, the Treaty of Ghent in 1814. While the War of 1812 was only a very marginal victory for the US (DC was burned and Canada was still unconquered), the war was sufficiently costly to both the US and the Brits that both nations avoided war with each other in North America from that point forward. Indiana joined in 1816, Mississippi in 1817, Illinois in 1818, Alabama in 1819, Maine in 1820 and Missouri in 1821. Oh, and by 1820, New Orleans was the US's 5th largest city, and with over 6 million souls, the US was the most populous power in the new world. So it seems like either history diverged well before the 1830's, or the US lost some "new" wars with the Brits and Indians some time after that point, since your US seems smaller than the US of 1800, let alone the US of 1820 or 1830.


Slavery is a vexed subject, and although still tolerated in areas of the world where it was historically practiced (and economically important), is not discussed in polite society, except euphemistically. Also, because the British Empire has interests all over the world, it is not necessarily the Black-White issue that it is from the US historical perspective. Human subjugation can take many forms.



Obviously, politics will shape each character in the sense that they are the product of their culture and background, and they will have points of view and prejudices which create friction with their companions. However it’s my aim to avoid a lot of exposition in the game, but have the politics or background come out during (skipable) conversations and events during play.



The party is definitely multi-cultural. The PC sibling will spend some time with the party. There will be other siblings in the party, too. The PC can be male or female, but they have quite different characters, so playing each will yield a fresh experience. I will surprise exactly no one on this forum by announcing that there will be straight, lesbian, and gay relationship opportunities. While some (a majority) of party characters are bi, others are strictly straight, gay, or lesbian.



Airships … of course! How can we do steampunk without airships? Including one special airship … 8)


My thoughts exactly. Can't have steampunk without airships.


As for having Roger Steel's name in the title, well now, Roger Steel is an interesting character … :wink:


Yep, this sounds like material for a separate preview.
Anima_
So, did you ever play Shadow Hearts?

No, I honestly played really a few JRPG. With my coder we always joke about this, since I come from a "western RPG background" while he played a lot of JRPG. So often our RPGs are a mix of western/eastern ruleset/battle systems :lol:

Yep, I played Shadow Hearts 2 and 3. Though I really didn't like 3, they went to far with the characters and the setting didn't interest me that much. And I do know western RPGs, just nothing that came after Kotor II. :wink:
P_Tigras
BTW, why is the word Russian triggering a filter? That's Russ ian without the space between "Russ" and "ian".