Is there an update downloadable anywhere for this game? If so, can I please have a link? Because the version I have is so full of bugs, the game is essentially unplayable.



First there are the crashes. Oh, but they shouldn't daunt me at all! All I have to do is restart, load a game, repeat my actions, and... oh, guess what, it crashed again. Huh, I guess that does take the fun out of an otherwise well-crafted game.



Second, there are times when tasks do not show up on the projects list, so the next time I end up seeing my co-worker thinking I've done all their dirty work for them, they end up getting pissed off for a task I didn't even realize I'd missed. (Meeting minutes are by far the worst of these cases)



Third, and foremost... I am about 90+ days into the game, I complete a work day, go to bed, ready to wake up to a brand new day at work and - oh. The credits are rolling. Every so often when I go to bed, this happens. Game ends, credits roll, the opening scene plays, and then I'm booted back to the menu. Please tell me this is a bug and not a shoddy excuse for a secret ending. This is by far the most annoying bug I've consistently run into, by far, and I have not been able to find a way around it.



I've been trying to enjoy this game. I really have. I played the demo, and purchased the full game expecting to find the same amount of enjoyability I'd found in other WinterWolves games like Spirited Heart and Flower Shop. And believe me, it would be so much more enjoyable if not for all the bugs.



I made my purchase and download on February 19th, 2010, though I'm not sure if there's an update or a patch needed for my current version. For the sake of helping out with the bug-fixing, here's a traceback:



I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.



TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects



While running game code:

- script at line 657 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy

- python at line 746 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.

- python at line 403 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy.

- python at line 373 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.

- python at line 297 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.



-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------



File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 279, in bootstrap

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\main.py", line 320, in main

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\main.py", line 93, in run

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\execution.py", line 259, in run

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\ast.py", line 588, in execute

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\python.py", line 957, in py_exec_bytecode

File "C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy", line 746, in <module>

File "C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy", line 403, in do_actions

File "C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy", line 373, in visit

File "C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy", line 297, in assign_task

TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects



While running game code:

- script at line 657 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy

- python at line 746 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.

- python at line 403 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy.

- python at line 373 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.

- python at line 297 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.



Ren'Py Version: Ren'Py 6.12.0e





Any help would be very, very much appreciated. When it comes to the quality of its games, WinterWolves has never let me down, up until this point, and it would be a shame see this wonderfully conceptualized game go to waste over a few annoying bugs. Thanks bunches.

edit & update: I just noticed you said you purchased the game February 19th, 2010 - obviously that's not possible in any case, you can just redownload the game from same location (and be sure to uninstall the old one first so you play the latest version) and try again, you will be playing the latest version.



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sorry to hear about your problems. I've already informed the coder - unfortunately I didn't code this, only produced it, so I cannot fix any bugs myself I'm sure she'll help you quickly.

First I have to ask you one question though: could it be that you played an older version first, saved the game, and continued to play with the new versions? I ask because if you try to continue a savegame from one of the earlier version you'll have those bugs and you should really start a new fresh game.



If that's not the case then don't worry, we'll fix any bugs you have, I've never let my customer unsatisfied

LOL! Yeah, it's actually the 17th, which is just yesterday. I've only started playing for about four hours and I'm pretty sure I don't have any other versions of the game.



Thanks for the help anyways, I guess I'll just have to download again and see if it works.

Cool, I've told Christine about the bug, so she will also give me an "official reply" in few hours (it's still night where she lives now)

Sent you an email asking to send me the save files, so Christine can take a look at them - seems is a very strange bug!!

Well, hard to say without the code, but given the error type:



TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects



it sounds like the programmer has tried to do add a word (or string) to a number.

Yep, but still need the savegame since despite maybe a simple game appearance there's lot going on undercover I wouldn't surely know where to look myself! I code in a much simpler way

Well darn it, after you replied, I decided to reinstall and start from scratch... and I think the save game got deleted in the progress. LOL. >.<;;



No matter though, I'll try to do another playthrough and see if the bug shows up again. I do know that it occurred at 90+ days, after advancing certain plot points with the mystery.

Show Spoiler

I found out that the culprit was *spoiler spoiler* and called the police.

I also had the lucky ring, and I had maxed 'relationship' with everyone in the office, and was dating Ross at the time. Not sure if that helps, but I'll definitely send a save game if I encounter that bug again.



Also, crashes seem to occur always with a specific task assigned by Jonathan. It's one of his projects, advanced evidence procedures, something or other.



Thanks for the help, again.

90+ days? Wait a minute, how many days there's suppose to be in this game? For me the game always ends some point after 60+days, what's with that?

I've actually played two games beyond 60+ days and never had an ending prompt....is that another bug? lol



EDIT:



So I've actually been able to keep the saved games after all, silly me. XD Can you tell me then which files do I send and where they can be found, and where to send them? Thanks!

Okay, thanks, that helps me figure out where the crash lies: I've fixed it, so that should be changed when Jack uploads the next version.



The number of days doesn't have any impact on the ending at all, although 90+ sounds really excessive. There's a few things that can trigger the game to end:



- Calling the police will cause the game to end the next day.

- Running out of possible dates (varies, but usually means you've seen 8-10) will cause the game to end within approximately two weeks.

- Getting dumped will trigger it immediately.

- Running out of projects to be assigned by someone will trigger it immediately, but it's not very likely you won't trigger one of the first three well before that happens.

Okay, thanks, that helps me figure out where the crash lies: I've fixed it, so that should be changed when Jack uploads the next version.



The number of days doesn't have any impact on the ending at all, although 90+ sounds really excessive. There's a few things that can trigger the game to end:



- Calling the police will cause the game to end the next day.

- Running out of possible dates (varies, but usually means you've seen 8-10) will cause the game to end within approximately two weeks.

- Getting dumped will trigger it immediately.

- Running out of projects to be assigned by someone will trigger it immediately, but it's not very likely you won't trigger one of the first three well before that happens.

How is that last one possible? I can't even count how many times I've been tasked with cleaning the same places for Ross. Okay, so I probably count them, but I'm genuinely surprised you could run out of assignments, although pleased, as doing the same assignments over and over gets boring. (well, more boring, I should say, really.)

Are these triggers supposed to lead to an ending? Or are they just bugs?

Are these triggers supposed to lead to an ending? Or are they just bugs?

They trigger endings, as far as I understand. Another way to trigger an ending is to get fired, unless that what she means by getting dumped. I wasn't aware you could get dumped. I once forgot to show up to a date with Ross, and he just never spoke to me again, so I didn't know you really could get dumped.

Yeah, these are ways to trigger endings. That's how the game ends. (And yes, you can also get fired, I forgot to mention that. It's pretty hard to get dumped, since... well... it doesn't seem like a very fun mechanic.)

How is that last one possible? I can't even count how many times I've been tasked with cleaning the same places for Ross. Okay, so I probably count them, but I'm genuinely surprised you could run out of assignments, although pleased, as doing the same assignments over and over gets boring. (well, more boring, I should say, really.)

Each person has a finite number of projects (IIRC usually around 30), although if you get unlucky with the random shuffle, you might see a fair bit of repetition in Jonathan/Ross's; for instance, it's possible to get all five cleaning projects in a row, although not very likely!



It's not an ending you're supposed to get, and it'd be pretty tedious to try, since it'd mean going through several whole playthroughs worth of work without solving the mystery or spending much time dating. It's just necessary, otherwise the game could go on forever, without any work to do!

Sorry I was away eating pizza I've now uploaded the latest changes Christine sent me!

Thanks bunches, I mean it. I'm gonna play to my hearts content and test for any other bugs.



You guys are made of awesomesauce.



That said though, does the download link work? As of now I've been waiting for it to load for a while.



Edit- NM, I just tried the fourth mirror and it's downloading

Another bug





I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.



TypeError: 'int' object is not iterable



While running game code:

- script at line 657 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy

- python at line 748 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.

- python at line 407 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy.

- python at line 146 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy.



-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------



File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 279, in bootstrap

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\main.py", line 320, in main

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\main.py", line 93, in run

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\execution.py", line 259, in run

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\ast.py", line 588, in execute

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\python.py", line 957, in py_exec_bytecode

File "C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy", line 748, in <module>

File "C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy", line 407, in do_actions

File "C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy", line 146, in do_actions

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\exports.py", line 543, in display_menu

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\ui.py", line 236, in interact

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 1627, in interact

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 1929, in interact_core

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 246, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 1929, in <lambda>

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\screen.py", line 152, in per_interact

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\screen.py", line 252, in update

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 244, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\core.py", line 241, in visit_all

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\text.py", line 842, in visit

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\text.py", line 778, in update

File "C:\Program Files\Love and Order\renpy\display\text.py", line 358, in input_tokenizer

TypeError: 'int' object is not iterable



While running game code:

- script at line 657 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy

- python at line 748 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/script.rpy.

- python at line 407 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy.

- python at line 146 of C:\- indie dev -\games\renpy.new\Love & Order/game/rooms.rpy.



Ren'Py Version: Ren'Py 6.12.0e

Thanks.



What had you just done before triggering this?

I had just accepted an assignment from Jonathan and was about to move to a new area