Franka
Feb 03, 2018
Dasyra's personal quest sets my Hammerhands reputation at 75, which coupled with Merchant is enough to once again profit from buy/sell.
jack1974
Feb 03, 2018
Ah yes, I forgot to update those values based on last findings about the "money-cheat". Thanks!
myoksy
Feb 03, 2018
> As for take aim no, it's a debuff, the other attacks will do more damage.
that's not what I meant: It is possible that an already dead char can get the effect. mostly it looks weird, it is not something that breaks any of the mechanics.
jack1974
Feb 03, 2018
Ah OK. Yes I'll take a look to see if can be easily fixed then

myoksy
Feb 03, 2018
> Ok what you propose? Since you're the master of debilitate skill
mostly it irritates me that improving the skill makes it worse in one aspect - that's a completely new feature no other skill (afaik) has.
a few ideas (all untested, too lazy to mod your game : ))
- keep the SP cost and SP damage, but use for all skill levels one static value for HP damage and delay (maybe 100% and 15? identical to a melee attack)
- keep the SP cost and SP damage, but make it a fast attack and lower the damage (maybe 12 delay like many other special melee attacks and a damage of 33%, 66%, 100% for the 3 skill levels)
more crazy variants
- make it slow and powerful (I used chains, the other SP burning skill, as model):
lvl 1 - SP cost 3, SP damage 4, delay 30, HP damage 100%
lvl 2 - SP cost 3, SP damage 6, delay 30, HP damage 125%
lvl 3 - SP cost 3, SP damage 8, delay 30, HP damage 150%
- make it fast. I mean FAST
lvl 1 - SP cost 1, SP damage 1, delay 10, HP damage 50%
lvl 3 - SP cost 1, SP damage 1, delay 8, HP damage 50%
lvl 3 - SP cost 1, SP damage 1, delay 6, HP damage 50%
the first two ideas are in line with other skills (solid but nothing to write home about), the latter two make it rather unique. personally I think the 4th one could be fun - only pinpricks, but thousands of them : )
jack1974
Feb 03, 2018
I'll try the 4th to see how it plays, but sounds fun indeed

Franka
Feb 03, 2018
Is "Defeat the Kraken" supposed to show up more than once?
jack1974
Feb 03, 2018
The quest? no should show up only one entry in the quest book! You need to do several missions before you can fight it though.
edit: I think you mean the menu option while in Docks? Yes maybe I'll change it to "Hunt the Kraken" since until you explore all areas you can't fight it.
Franka
Feb 03, 2018
No, I mean, I just fought the Kraken for the second time. The first time was with cannons, the second time I didn't get any cannons. I got the same loot and the quest completed again.
jack1974
Feb 03, 2018
Ah OK then definitely a bug

in theory though you should be able to try it again? if the quest doesn't clear correctly it should behave like that.
Franka
Feb 03, 2018
Yes, it just showed up again. Shows up every 3 days, I think. Let me know if you need a save.
jack1974
Feb 03, 2018
No I already fixed it, was a simple "kraken_defeated=True" missing!

I made the Debilitate tweak and it's fun (superquick skill, different from the others and more useful than before to drain some enemies SP).
I think it's time for a new update

myoksy
Feb 03, 2018
I made the Debilitate tweak and it's fun
harr, I love it - this skill works like no other and plays differently.
Franka
Feb 03, 2018
It does present a bit of a problem though, in that attacking so quickly means you can destroy the opponents' defense stat very quickly.
Franka
Feb 03, 2018
Issue: I reached lv30. There are no more skills left, I can't exit level up screen because I have to choose a skill.
myoksy
Feb 03, 2018
> It does present a bit of a problem though, in that attacking so quickly means you can destroy the opponents' defense stat very quickly.
good point, I began a new game and don't do enough damage to shred armour.
> I can't exit level up screen because I have to choose a skill.
I laughed out loud reading this. one of the funnier bugs (that is if you're unaffected) : D
jack1974
Feb 04, 2018
Yes another user on FB told me about the level 30 bug

Of course you reached that because of the Kraken bug but still you should be able to go on. I think I need to slow down the level gains a bit in the final game though.
As for Debilitate, yes I need to slow it down a bit (in this game most skill have a base delay of 15, so 8 is VERY fast) and maybe also have it do less damage, instead of 50% even 25% maybe (the main purpose should be to reduce the target's SP).
jack1974
Feb 04, 2018


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I've fixed the bug in a "retroactive" way - changed the level up code so you don't get too many skillpoints but also checks if you have more than the one you can spend will delete it, so you can go on past this screen. Also made the unlearned skills gray because when there was just 1 skill left was taking me several second to find the button to click (most people will just use auto-level up but...).
I definitely need to tweak the XP amount though, you're not supposed to reach level 30 already in act2!
I am also going to lower the Debilitate speed a bit considering the other skills (as said all the basic skills have 15 delay as base) and also lower damage otherwise you destroy enemy defenses too quickly
p.s. and I also noticed the level up text is wrong! You get a skill every 2 levels and stop, not like it's written

Franka
Feb 04, 2018
I would have reached lv30 in act 2 even without 3 Krakens. Maybe I could have even done it in act I, if I had fought all the arenas with one character (it would have been hard, but could have been done).
I played all arena fights 3 vs. 4 to get more reputation, which also means I have 3 lv29 characters and the rest are lagging 10+ levels behind, with 1 starting to catch up now that reputation is maxed at 50.
Franka
Feb 04, 2018
Now please upload the fix so I can get on with my game!
