jack1974
Dec 07, 2013
Well consider that Daronas the max size (600px in height). Bigger than that I think is a bit too much. Also uploaded Lydia and put a bit of lore/backstory
This wiki is a good idea because I can also see if I made mistakes, for example I called Torza also a new male character of Loren 2, and is a bit weird that has the same name as a female goddess in Spirited Heart
jack1974
Dec 07, 2013
Yes, will talk with Aleema about that possibility, could be interesting to write
Miakoda
Dec 07, 2013
Yes, will talk with Aleema about that possibility, could be interesting to write
And if you find something to inspire you, or even extrapolate on, that can be a good thing too. For example, in Spirited Heart, if one is an elf and romances Thym, you find out elven screams can actually cause pain to humans. Whether that makes it into other games or not...
jack1974
Dec 07, 2013
Yes well I think that was effective in that particular scene of the game, but I don't think I'll use that as general rule, otherwise elves could win all battles against humans simply screaming all at once
P_Tigras
Dec 08, 2013
Ok, I've created a category hierarchy based on the 27 pages that are already present. It follows:
Aravorn Wiki Content
[list]
[*]Characters
[list][*] Amazons
[*]Loren the Amazon Princess characters
[*]Loren 2 characters[/list]
[*]Games
[*] Locations
[list][*] Loren the Amazon Princess locations
[*] Loren 2 characters
[*] Seasons of the Wolf Locations[/list]
[*] Lore
[*] Races & Cultures[/list]
All pages should belong to at least one category, some can belong to more than one. For example Loren the character belongs to Characters, Amazons, Loren the Amazon Princess characters, and Loren 2 characters. The Elvish Lands page on the other hand has been placed in Locations, Loren the Amazon Princess locations and Races & Culture. The reason why it's also categorized as Races & Cultures as well is because the page talks about the Elven culture of those lands, not just their location.
Clearly more categories will need to be created as the Wiki expands. This is just a start based on the pages already present.
There is one page that I haven't categorized, and I believe it should be merged with an existing page. Currently, the "Amazons" page is just a short list of important Amazons. The rest of the info on Amazons is on the "Amazon" page. Namely, I think the Amazon and Amazons pages should be merged together under Amazons, and Amazon made a redirect to Amazons. Does anyone disagree?
EDIT: fixed bullet points; added games to category hierarchy
jack1974
Dec 08, 2013
Yes I agree, and then the section:
Prominent Amazons
should be added to the amazon page maybe?
P_Tigras
Dec 08, 2013
Yes I agree, and then the section:
Prominent Amazons
should be added to the amazon page maybe?
Yep, that's my feeling as well. Nevertheless, since Miakoda created both pages I'd definitely like to get her opinion too before going forward on the merge.
Miakoda
Dec 08, 2013
I have no problem with it. Seems like a good approach to organization. I know in the first few stages of a wiki things will be merged/deleted/reorganized. That is the nature of wikis after all, and others can certainly have a better approach on how to organize things.
As for why I called it Elven lands and included culture is that the Elven land actually weren't given a specific country name (nor the Amazon lands, or Dwarven Lands for that matter). The only 'grouping' actually given a proper name was the Empire of Man.
And of course, making sure to have in mind what Jack1974's preferences would be (for example, I'm trying to make sure pictures of characters uploaded aren't over 600 pixels)
jack1974
Dec 08, 2013
I'm adding some pages, like Rei's one, but I don't want to write the description myself since would suck
but at least I can contribute uploading the images and setting up the various pages!
Miakoda
Dec 08, 2013
I'm adding some pages, like Rei's one, but I don't want to write the description myself since would suck but at least I can contribute uploading the images and setting up the various pages!
And I admit, I enjoy some of it as teasers/spoilers when appropriate
(Like Lydia and Daronas)
It really is taking shape fairly well, and once in shape, the information will certainly start to roll faster.
I will redirect some of the race pages to the Cultures/Countries entries as well, following PTigras model. This will be appropriate for the Nomads, Elves, and Dwarves.
Needless to say, if anyone has better pictures than ones I put up (like with Loren and Breza), feel free to replace mine.
Heh, and I definitely will purchase Magic Stones later today. I really want to get some information on the aforementioned 'Black Tower'
P_Tigras
Dec 08, 2013
The Merge/Redirect for Amazon/Amazons is done.
Updated Category Tree:
Aravorn Wiki Content
[list]
[*]Characters
[list][*] Amazons
[*]Dark Elves
[*]Dwarves
[*]Elves
[*]Humans
[*]Loren: The Amazon Princess characters
[*]Loren 2 characters
[*]Mages
[*]Thieves
[*]Warriors[/list]
[*]Games
[*] Locations
[list][*] Loren: the Amazon Princess locations
[*] Loren 2 characters
[*] Seasons of the Wolf locations[/list]
[*] Lore
[*] Races & Cultures[/list]
Note that the Amazons page and the Amazons character category are two different things. The Amazons page is categorized under Races & Cultures. On the other hand Loren, Karen & Breza are categorized under Amazons, the character category.
Miakoda
Dec 08, 2013
I won't be really able to do much until later this afternoon (my time), but while the is still in the early stages, I want to say P_Tigras, Aleema, and Jack1974 have done some great work. I apologize for anyone I may have missed.
I do have a question. I really haven't dug into Magic Stones yet (I will be focusing on Spirited Heart), but are the Druids in that game different than say the Druids in Loren?
jack1974
Dec 08, 2013
Well honestly I am not sure if is worth it to consider that game
I used Aravorn as setting, but I had not in mind the same world of the latter games.
You could say that even humans can be Druid (in SOTW, you can play as Druid with a snow elf) but seems a world different from Loren's. If I have to add it, it could possibly be set in the very early years of the timeline, before year 99 when the dark elves were born.
Miakoda
Dec 08, 2013
Well honestly I am not sure if is worth it to consider that game I used Aravorn as setting, but I had not in mind the same world of the latter games. You could say that even humans can be Druid (in SOTW, you can play as Druid with a snow elf) but seems a world different from Loren's. If I have to add it, it could possibly be set in the very early years of the timeline, before year 99 when the dark elves were born.
It doesn't need to be included, especially given its age. I was mostly asking due to the obvious 'Aravorn' name connection. However, if you don't wish it in, that's cool.
Heh, it wouldn't be the first time something was retconned, after all.
P_Tigras
Dec 08, 2013
Well honestly I am not sure if is worth it to consider that game I used Aravorn as setting, but I had not in mind the same world of the latter games. You could say that even humans can be Druid (in SOTW, you can play as Druid with a snow elf) but seems a world different from Loren's. If I have to add it, it could possibly be set in the very early years of the timeline, before year 99 when the dark elves were born.
Heheheheheh...now that we have a wiki, you're going to need to make more of an effort to keep the lore consistent across all games that take place in the same world.
In Loren, Druids seemed to be a race not a class. If the elves could be Druids, what did they need Myrth, who was neither elf nor human, for? While in SOTW, it appears that Druid is just another character class, one that is open to elves. If Druids are class as depicted in SOTW, then what exactly is Myrth? A dryad?
jack1974
Dec 08, 2013
Damn wiki!!!!
Hmm you're right though, in Loren druids seems more a race than a class. I think the safest thing is just to change the class name in SOTW for now
If I remember well though Myrth was an Elder Druid, so could be different from a normal Druid. I need to replay a bit Myrth dialogues to check!
jack1974
Dec 08, 2013
Ah wait found it:
my "I'm not particularly sure how best to describe my nature ... I am not truly a sprite like the nymphs, but I am also born different from humans and elves."
my "I feel as if I am one with the forest. As if I {i}am{/i} the forest, like I am her voice."
my "But the term \"druid\" has been applied to anyone who studies and is capable of forest magic, and that is what my lineage is called."
my "I know it's common to think of me as a magical creature born from a flower, but druids are similar to both humans and elves. I was born from my mother's womb, not a giant flower, like a nymph."
I highlighted the line in bold. So I think even in SOTW there can be druids, since they have studied forest magic. They're normal elves that choose that path.
Myrth is definitely some kind of "special druid" though. In the sequel she can also wear normal clothes, looking more human
(and less sexy!
)
Aleema
Dec 08, 2013
If one of your parents or grandparents (or, hey, great grandparents) was a druid, then you can practice druid magic and can call yourself a druid. Myrth is unique in that she is a PURE druid, meaning she has never had human/elf/etc blood in her family tree, only other pure druids.
P_Tigras
Dec 08, 2013
I highlighted the line in bold. So I think even in SOTW there can be druids, since they have studied forest magic. They're normal elves that choose that path.
Myrth is definitely some kind of "special druid" though. In the sequel she can also wear normal clothes, looking more human (and less sexy! )
So what's so special about her racially aside from her forest clothes? Does the forest speak through non-pure Druids too? Or only pure ones.
If one of your parents or grandparents (or, hey, great grandparents) was a druid, then you can practice druid magic and can call yourself a druid. Myrth is unique in that she is a PURE druid, meaning she has never had human/elf/etc blood in her family tree, only other pure druids.
She can't be entirely unique or she'd be the last of the pure Druids. There has got to be at least one pure male druid out there still. Or does she somehow pollinate herself?
